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April, 1999

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Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 22:51:06 (EST)
Ame, Maybe if we scattered sharp little faceted beads all over the floor like kids do with Legos, we could do some exercise without the bike! A question on your problem with breakage of Acculon at the crimp end: do you loop the cable through a jumpring and crimp, or do you attach a bead tip? I devised a way of attaching a bead tip instead of using the jumpring right through the cable that I think seems sturdier, and looks more finished too, although it is a little tricky. It s eems to take the stress off the end of the cable and you also don't have to worry about any sharp-edged crimps next to the skin.
Bonnie, I like your attitude about "fat"!

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 19:28:54 (EST)
Thanks

 


 

Bonnie:- a8.pm3-45.theriver.com - Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 18:09:54 (EST)
Ame, I will give a call in the next few days and see. It may be a long shot but we'll see. Let you know soon.

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 16:50:34 (EST)
Hello Natasha
Bonnie size 11 or 12
If they are only available in the larger sizes at this point I will happily take them.
:)
Thanks!!

 


 

Bonnie:- a11.pm3-45.theriver.com - Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 16:10:45 (EST)
Beeedz, please don't say fat.....just more there to love !!

 


 

natasha:- 212.1.134.246 - Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 13:48:06 (EST)
hello

 


 

Bonnie:- a30.pm3-24.theriver.com - Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 13:20:54 (EST)
Ame, I do have a connection and will see if she can get blue violet czec seed beads. What size please ??

 


 

Bonnie:- a30.pm3-24.theriver.com - Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 13:18:58 (EST)
Pete, "thank you" !!! We are all here for the love of beads. Whatever we are, we should try to be more caring about one another. If somebody thinks they are so much smarter then the others, and others are boring....perhaps they shou ld bite their tongue and just try to share their knowledge with us and perhaps we can all learn something. If one tries and we try together we can achieve this goal. My neighbor says he wantther we can achieve this goal. My neighbor says he wants to shoot out my window as he served in the war (back to the peace sign) I told him all I am getting at is peace could be so much nicer...and please..don't shoot.

 


 

Juergen Busch:- spider-wl054.proxy.aol.com - Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 09:12:08 (EST)
ERIC/PETE: I have a very limited knowledge on the origin of most stone beads. From obervation my nose smells this stone bead could be made in the area of Persia, Bactria (Baktrien) or Mesopotamia. Just a guess...

 

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 02:36:01 (EST)
Beedz
I do know that diffrent manufacterers have diffrent colors of red .
So unless you buy from a specific "family" then you will see the variations.

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 02:33:44 (EST)
Ahh Beedz you had given me hope!
I guess the beadercize is out.
Schucks!
I think they may be a simulated form of carnelion?
But from myunderstanding they are simply lovely and sought after.
I am still looking for a real blue violet in czec seed beads. I can only find plum.
When I asked about it I was told the redder purple was easier to make then the blue.
The only blueviolet or even royal purple I can find is in japanese.
Any suggestions?

 


 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 00:03:02 (EST)
Bonnie: One more thing...the bike is still in the garage covered with a tarp. The beading hasn't been picked up again and the fat remains. Oh well!

 


 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 23:51:41 (EST)
Susanartist: Do you work with beads?

 


 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 23:43:58 (EST)
Bonnie: Great! Yes, it counts! I have a "Love Your Mother" bumper sticker -- my mom hasn't figured it out yet.
Oh, well...

Anyone: I have a question about red Czech beads, I think they are the kind made to "simulate carnelian". However, some from a different strand that I bought are darker in color and somewhat cloudy or mottled looking. Regarding stone beads, is the perfor ation on one end ALWAYS "blown out" or can the perforation be fairly regular on both ends? I'm not very familiar with stone beads. Also, I have some beads that all this time I though were just glass, but now I think they are banded agate. One end of th e perforation is definitely blown out. Are these type still made? Thanks!

 


 

Susanartist:- spider-wc053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 23:35:08 (EST)
bye, I guess I'm the only one here

 


 

Susanartist:- spider-wc053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 23:34:45 (EST)
anyone here?

 


 

Susanartist:- spider-wc053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 23:34:02 (EST)
Hi room!

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 22:07:08 (EST)
WOW PeOR=#008080Duh:- acc-29.northnet.org - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 21:09:36 (EST)
Yes, from CHAT-DEX there is a link to picture postings. One more click.
~ Peace

 


 

Pete (webmaster):- acc-29.northnet.org - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 21:01:59 (EST)
NOTICE TO EVERYONE
Eric's bead is posted and yours can be, too. The link is on the page that introduces this page. For various reasons, you shouldn't bookmark this page. Bookmark the CHAT-DEX page or, better yea, because of the constant addition of new content, the Home Page. To get to see Eric's bead click on "Home" above and then on Chat Line (far left). Enjoy.
~ Peace (again)

 


 

Pete:- acc-29.northnet.org - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 20:59:26 (EST)
JHAN - Welcome back and thanks for your thoughts. Sorry to hear you were feeling badly.
JÜRGEN - Give the World Bead Chain a chance. When The Bead Chat Line went up 2.5 years ago people used to complain that there was nothing on it. Now look at it. Despite the speed of the Internet, things still need to mature.
The same thing is happening with The Bead Austion. Only three sales have been completed, but it, too, will grow.
MILO - Yes, it does get annoying at times, but I just shrug it off. I'm not sure that a name change would make much difference. And it would be difficult to effect, as we have been spidered by all the search engines. Thanks for the encouragement.
AME - Thanks for your kind words.
BONNIE - Yeah, I've been using "Peace" since the Vietnam War. We do make little steps toward it, but it is a long road.
BEEEDZ - Right on.
EVERYONE - When I emphasize that this is a Bead Chat Line that doesn't exclude members of the bead community (read you) from chatting about other things, recommending books or just letting off a sigh. Let's be brothers and sisters here.
~Peace
 

 


 

Bonnie:- a40.pm3-24.theriver.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 20:56:18 (EST)
Beedz, does it count....my car has a big rainbow peace sign in the rear window ??

 


 

Bonnie:- a40.pm3-24.theriver.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 20:53:35 (EST)
Ame, thanks !! And peace and joy back !! Bead on fine lady.
Beeedz, you are just way too cool. Thanks for the words of wisdom. How did that bike and the beads work out anyways ?

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 18:58:13 (EST)
Oh my goodness
Juergen
Nice to see you have a sense of humor.
Milo
Helping to solve a problem is a better use of your time.
Bonnie
Peace and JOY!!
 

 


 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 18:53:05 (EST)
If we all keep thinking "peace," peace will grow and soon encompass all. Has anyone ever read "The Hundredth Monkey"? Or James Redfield's "The Secret of Shambhala"? Sorry if anyone is offended by these non-bead suggestions, but I 've found through the years that (most) bead people are well-rounded and tend to have a world-view that encompasses the importance of all cultures. That kind of attitude will eventually take over and the single-minded people in the world will find that t heir judgmental attitudes are no longer "vogue"; they will either have to accept a new way of being or disappear; they will be unable to survive in a world where kindness, non-judgmentalness, tolerance, and unconditional love are the norm, instead of the exception. It will be an apocalyptic time for them, in that it will totally shatter their comprehensions of the way life "should be".

The internet has given people everywhere an exceptional way of communicating that shouldn't be taken lightly. After all, it is just a physical manifestation of a capability we as humans have forgotten how to use.

Yes, beads are addicting all right, but the first time I fell in love with one, it was because of the collective energy behind it -- that was the human part; the interest in it's history came later. So let's all remember to remain human in this world of techno-garbage, otherwise we have really lost everything (including our sense of humor!).

Peace means everything. Please keep using the word, and MEAN IT!!! Thanks, Pete, for bringing that essential word into everything you do!

 


 

Bonnie:- a44.pm3-28.theriver.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 17:11:58 (EST)
~peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~

 


 

Bonnie:- a44.pm3-28.theriver.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 17:10:59 (EST)
Beeedz, you are right, they are just beads....highly addicted little critters though arn't they.
Milo, geez you must live a very secluded life just scan past the trash if it bothers you that badly. We are all bead people here....some wanted to be without the "A" in bead...I believe they were kids. I am with you with trying to have words of encouragem ent to all the beaders who visit this site. Pete says ~Peace but unfortunately through the years it means nothing it seems. Lets try to be kind to one another....

 


 

Milo:- 203.35.134.144 - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 16:45:35 (EST)
Just a candid thought: I scan these messages to see if anything interests me or if I can help someone else find a solution to a problem.

When I see some of the poor unfortunate people who are so lonely that they want to draw attention to themselves by posting non bead and most times stupid messages I turn off and leave the site alone for a few days. I can waste far too much of my presciou s time reading interesting messages to be bothered with some of the rubbish and filth that these sad people come up with. Is there some way that we can limit the amount of skummy visitors we get and encourage a well rounded selection of BEAD interested p eople who are willing to exchange thoughts and ideas of encouragement to beginners as well as experienced bead people.

Perhaps it is the name of the Chat site, maybe it could be worded like Development & Research of Bead/Beading Chat Line or The Bead Guildhall Chat Line. I check out the site most times when I sign on to the web but only reply when the chat is of intere st to me personally. There are some sites around that have made it so hard to get and receive messages and I get frustrated with trying but at least they are not plagued by morons as we seem to get.

Pete and Jhan, you do far too much good work for it to all go down the drain. Hope you find a solution and make this the most interesting site for beadaholics.

 


 

Juergen Busch:- spider-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 15:15:11 (EST)
Jhan: I will continue to think about the "problem", but doubt to come up with a solution which will work. As I said earlier - the WBC is probably too small and our topics too diverse to make or keep it going. Not all of us have a d- camera or scanner, but a place to post pics (no porcu-pigs) for further discussion, would probably help. This is exactly what Eric suggest and what our helpline-operator "Peader" is setting up now.
How many WBC member, for example, take part on Pete´s "Bead Site Chat Line"...? Two? Three? Maybe five the most. I think this alone makes clear that people are not as interested as you/we had hoped. I might be wrong and hope I am, but really doubt it! Let ´s see if any other member/s will contribute ideas (on this site) to keep your baby alive.
This is indeed a chat line here (by name), but our (!) hopes - regarding the level of chat - were different. That might sound again odd to some of you - but it´s difficult to keep mouth "chat" on a shut-line.
"Hope die´s last" - juergen


 

 


 

Jhan:- ospreysystems.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 13:53:39 (EST)
Ame- The World Bead Chain is a collection of individuals that have varied interests regarding beads, most of which have at least a passing interest in the history of beads and their manufacture. It was designed to futher communicati ons beyond what this site can supply. It's been a slow go so far, and we are hoping to rev it up here.

Juergen- We do need to infuse some life into the WBC. Any ideas? [preferably without porcupines ;-) ]
 

 


 

Juergen Busch:- spider-wj082.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 12:56:37 (EST)
WBC - WORLD BOXING COUNCIL (no kidding)!

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 11:22:36 (EST)
I have been exploring the site and have felt it is wonderful.
Thanks Pete for working so hard on it!

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 11:21:39 (EST)
Thanks Pete
Everhave one of those days?
I will be able to post to the nw ink when/if it gets running.
Could some one PLEASE explain to me the diffrence of this site and thWBC ?
 

 


 

Juergen Busch:- spider-wk063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 10:50:47 (EST)
JHAN/PETE: definitely all WBC members must contribute - nobody can wait for the other to make a move. Nevertheless, given my WBC experiences so far, I feel/fear we´re nursing "dead born child". We should consider and discuss changes ! The problem might remain unsolved anyway. The group is small and members interests differ too much in subject and level. That is definitely not your fault Jhan (this is not a matter of personal fault anyway). I just wonder/ed why this train is that slow and what WE (!) could possibly do to push and keep it going?
PETE: cryptic? Think so...? Maybe a culture- or generation problem?
ERIC: take Busch to the bushes to beat them. Do you know this one (newcomers please note: Euro old-school version)? ?
Question: "Who´s sleeping their under the bush?"
Answer: "Misses Bush"
That leaves some space for comments....

Greets to Badman and Jane.
Juergen
alias "Kit Pyrc" or "Krypt-erix" the Bushman

 

 

 


 

Jhan:- ospreysystems.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 07:53:35 (EST)
Hello everyone! I'm back in the loop after a week of the "crud" (I get really sick about once every two years, and my body decided that it would be the Monday before Thanksgiving this year.) Really put a crimp in my plans, as the ba by was at Grandma's for the week and I was really hoping to get behind the torch for a good day or two.

WBC: As one of Pete's "minions" ;-) for the World Bead Chain, I know that I have been rather slack about posting to it. I really think one of our biggest problems is a lack of understanding of a discussion list. Only a handful of the members are on the di scussion list, and few understand it's purpose and usefullness.

 


 

Pete:- acc-4.northnet.org - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 02:24:21 (EST)
Geeze, where to begin?
AME - Yes, you'll need to use your sister's scanner.
JURGEN - Glad you like the idea. Post something on the WBC yourself. I'm going to throw something in in a day or so.
BONNIE - I'll try to be less cryptic. Jurgen is too over-anxious sometimes, but he can contribute when he is not being too cryptic (e.g. porcupines, etc.) Are you listening, JURGEN? ;-) to both of you
BEEEDZ - Glad you're having fun exploring TheBeadSite.com/ You are right, posting beads might be disappointing or a wonderful surprise.
ERIC - I'll be looking forward to it. Maybe we can work on something together.
~ Peace

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 02:07:47 (EST)
Beedz
Happy to help!
They are in my neckof the woods and I spend way to much money there.
Sorry
I was wrong were they break is at the crimpeped area.
Went and checked the older anklets and bracelets and thats the where problem
I am dazed after the weekend!
 

 


 

Eric:- 208.154.200.47 - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 01:27:04 (EST)
Pete, I ran into an interesting line of arguments about contact through the sahara. It is based on linguistics in relation with the introduction of metal in Eest Africa. The bad news is that I offline for a week, out into the bus h. The discussion can go on then
Bye

 


 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 00:21:03 (EST)
Ame - Whoops! Thanks to you too for the Shipwreck suggestion. Have an old catalog around here somewhere, I always liked the way they showed things in Living Color!

 


 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 00:16:45 (EST)
Bonnie - Thanks for further site suggestions for jewelry findings. I'll check into those. What Pete meant by "L&C (NOT) BEADS" was "Lewis & Clark Beads (NOT!!!!!)" I've used the same description for those beads, as shown on this site, as that is a popular misnomer for them. Many beads have different regional "names" which are just used as "accepted descriptions". Many of them are false, but it's fun anyway -- after all, they are BEADS! Pete is just looking out for us!
Pete - Thanks to you too for the site suggestions, and for the navigational hints for The Bead Site; there's alot of stuff in here and sometimes I get in so deep I have to yank myself away from the PC!
Ame - I've never had any problem with crimp beads on Acculon, which I've been using for a long time with no problems or complaints. I was just concerned about any experience you may have had with it breaking, as it is also termed "tigertail" and I notice d you had a problem with that.
Juergen - You're right, Eric's suggestion is a good one. Although, based on my experience, we must brace ourselves to not be disappointed if we find our bead treasures aren't quite as ancient as we thought! (Right, Pete?) Then again, we may find out we really made out like a bandit!

 


 

:- a34.pm3-31.theriver.com - Sunday, November 28, 1999 at 20:18:47 (EST)
Strange.....clear, frank and reacting positive........little man syndrome it sounds like.

 


 

Tarzan:- 208.154.200.35 - Sunday, November 28, 1999 at 18:08:50 (EST)
Hi Juergen

 


 

Bonnie:- a41.pm3-30.theriver.com - Sunday, November 28, 1999 at 14:02:24 (EST)
Ame,
Go to the search enjine for this site and put in feather beads. Then find the site with recycled feather beads. Those look similar to the ones I have......only not broken...Arn't they beautiful !!

 


 

Bonnie:- a42.pm3-53.theriver.com - Sunday, November 28, 1999 at 13:10:27 (EST)
Whats L. AND C.(not bead)mean, anybody ?
Jurgen- Tarzan, if you don't like the chats on the chat line why do you remain to come back ? Please tell me, what in the world were you referring to with white women and porcupines some time back. We are all interested in beads. this is the bead site and we have gone to "chat line" and to us that means "chat" if we are boring to you then just pass past ours and find Eric's. Computers make life so easy.
Eric or Amy, who was trying to bead on a exercise bike...did you make it ??!! You nuts. Have a bead-iful day..
let's try to think nice positive thoughts !

 


 

Juergen Busch:- spider-we074.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, November 28, 1999 at 09:33:35 (EST)
Eric: good idea to have a site on Peter´s where pics of interesting beads can be posted, seen and DISCUSSED. COMPLIMENT (it´s sooo obvious, but I had not thought about that myself)!
PETE: good that you reacted positive, are that flexible but also in a position (system- and timewise) to do it. COMPLIMENT too (I was not sure you would-could)!!!
I hope and think that this new feature will bring more serious traffic to this part of your site. Sometimes,
unfortunately increasing, this "chatchat-line" is leaving it´s tracks. I hope this feature will split "die Spreu vom Weizen".

We definitely need more Eric´s here....

WBC: can any member tell why it´s going that slow? What can or must be done to get "our" site in a better shape? Sure, no doubt, I´m part of the problem/silence! Members should respond clear and frank.
juergen

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, November 28, 1999 at 01:16:22 (EST)
Pete when and if you decide to set a place for us to show our work do I need a scanner?
I am on a cheap knock-off ofweb tv and I usually call it the evil empire..:)
My sister has a scanner and will let me use it .... I hope. May need to bribe her .

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, November 28, 1999 at 01:12:47 (EST)
Bonnie
The kids are back ... dumdum deedum...
LOL
I am starting my christmas list tomorow. Just finishing a barrette in the shape of crimson lips.
Beedz
I am not a fan of acculon I can never get m y crimps to stay tight enough.
I also recommend SHIPWRECK BEADS on line as great supplier of findings.
I have beaded on a train a plane and a automobile but not on a exer-bike!
If it works let me know!!
 

 


 

Pete:- acc-14.northnet.org - Saturday, November 27, 1999 at 22:21:25 (EST)
BY TOPIC:
Venetian feather beads began in the 1860s and continued to be made for about a century. Similar beads are also produced in Northern India today. They tend to be larger and have white perforation deposits. I am not sure if the Venetians ever made clear feather beads. The feather pattern is just one of several "combing" patterns employed on glass.
PAGE TO POST BEADS - I'll do this. I'll also put up pages where beadmakers and beadworkers can post their work. There will be a link to this page and to other appropriate pages on the site.
BUYING BEADS - Also try BeadRoom. There are currently links on the Shopping Mall, Bead Bazaar and Beadmaking and Materials Hub pages.
L & C (NOT) BEAD - The "gold stripes" are adventurine, a special glass made with flecks of copper.
WHY I HAVE NOT MADE ALL THESE CHANGES -- I am working out the historical/archaeological story of stone beadmaking in South India Pandukal (Megalithic) contexts.
~ Peace

 


 

Bonnie:- a32.pm3-53.theriver.com - Saturday, November 27, 1999 at 21:34:45 (EST)
Ame, well you got a few moments to yourself...know you were dreaming beads ! From what I gather with the feather beads they are 100 years old. The thing that gets me are my red feather beads some are made with a clear glass and some tend to have a reddish color to them.
Beeedz, glad to see you here ! The Venetian Bead Story is interesting. I have a bead that I was told was a Lewis and Clark bead. It looks alot like the one in Pete's picture in The Venetian Bead story, (fakes and frauds) only mine has red white and blue s pirals with gold stripes in between that turn into a spiral flower. You can't make alot of it out unless you use a magnifier glass. Otherwise the stripe and flower look a tan color with a circle like design. So you've tried Rings and things...How about Fi re Mountain Gem's... or Bovis bead co. Have a bead-iful evening all !!

 


 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Saturday, November 27, 1999 at 20:34:00 (EST)
Whoops! I returned instead of tabbing!
Noticed Bonnie's p.s. to Ame that she got a nice Rings 'n Things catalog. Does anyone have any other suggestions for good customer-friendly suppliers of jewelry findings?
Ame: What is your experience with Cablestrand Acculon?
Anyone: I bought a neat strand of beads, but have no idea what they are! They appear to be of a white porcelain material, they are cylindrical, and about 8mm in diameter with a fairly large hole, and are plus or minus 6mm in length. They have a brick red stripe around the circumference at the edges, and applied dark blue stripes the length of the bead, wonderful patina and wear and no chips or cracks. They are extremely similar in appearance to the vintage of "squiggles" as seen in Pete's site at: "Colo r Plates: The Venetian Bead Story/Part 2", (white bead with blue "squiggles" at top of box). Got these beads 1-1/2 years ago and still searching....does anybody out there have a clue?
Bonnie: Feathers are among my favorite beads. I have a couple of neat strands of pairs I've collected over the years. Always happy to share pics! I also love to use my "duplicates" in pieces for sale.
Pete: If it's do-able, it sure would be neat to have a page to share what pics of what we've all been up to! You have so much interesting stuff on this site already, though, where would you put it?
Hope everyone enjoyed Thanksgiving as much as I did! I wonder if it's possible to do beadwork while riding the exer-cycle.....
 

 


 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Saturday, November 27, 1999 at 20:01:33 (EST)
Wow, it has been busy here! I've not been in e-mail since Tuesday -- too busy enjoying the good food and family fun over the holiday!
 

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Saturday, November 27, 1999 at 14:55:40 (EST)
Bonnie
Do you have a relative year on those beads?
I can ask at a store I know that sells antique beads if you want me to.

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Saturday, November 27, 1999 at 14:53:55 (EST)
Bonnie
Thanks for the address but I was interested in the beads we have been discussing and I really want to see the new ones you got.
The kids are still convienintly gne and the house is quiet... so I am spending some down time.
Man my spelling is AWFULL
Elmo
I am sorry your bored but since You aren't here now theres not much I can do about it.
Sally and Sarah
what do you need to discuss?
Oh and Bonnie PLEASE tell me that was a type o when you refered to Erics WifeS
 

 


 

Bonnie:- a16.pm3-45.theriver.com - Saturday, November 27, 1999 at 12:34:08 (EST)
Ame, if you check out www.suzannecooper.com site there is a chat site there with different beaders work you can look at. It changes alot but there sure are alot of interesting beaders out there.

 


 

Bonnie:- a16.pm3-45.theriver.com - Saturday, November 27, 1999 at 12:30:01 (EST)
Wow, this is so much fun with people having real life chats instead of being boring stuffed shirt conversations ! Right on people.
Eric, hope that your wifes and your sale went well. What kind of beadwork does she do with her braclets etc. ? I just finished a neclace using my old time white hearts with the trade beads I got a few days back. They are interseting. I have been collectin g the feather beads for quite some time now and the glass and designs really have me guessing...Anybody have any clues ? I have some that have the white and blue feathers and they are made with a clear glass, black with white and blue feathers, and then I have some reds with white feathers. Now I have to finish a neclace out of blue lapis. I have a heart piece with inlaid lapis, lapis stones and some cut to heart shapes.
Ame, how are the kids doing ? Been able to bead any ?
Elmo, sorry that you are a bord shit. I'm sure you will get over it !

 

 

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Saturday, November 27, 1999 at 01:20:49 (EST)
Hello Leelou
Is that from the 5th element?
Nosey question for sure...
- robin.tacomaclick.net - Saturday, November 27, 1999 at 01:18:44 (EST)
Eric
I hope the sale goes well for you and your wife!
Pete
I lost both of them tonight ..How will I survive? VBS<
Hubby and I will just have to find away.
Thanks for taking my suggestion to heart! The people here have such facinating things to share I would Love to see them.
 

 


 

Pete:- acc-45.northnet.org - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 22:03:42 (EST)
AME - You didn't lose a son. You gained a neice.
ERIC - If I were to let people post things themselves they would have to have an FTP program and I would have to give out my password, which I shall not do. However, I would be willing to receive and post things, both for the chat line and for a sort of "showcase" as AME sugggested. I would have to insist on very small (file size) pictures. The bead site is already somewhat over the size limit given to me by my ISP and I would be reluctant to squeeze it much further. Let me think it through and I'll g et back to all of you. I think it is a good idea (or two).

I shall ask my technie about changing the "display the last" to 40 or 50. Good idea. I do not dare touch cgi scripting myself.

There are no Roman artifacts that have ever been found scientifically south of the grave in the Hoggar you mentioned. The grave was a royal one, so exotic items are not surprising. The climate was wetter and the Sahara narrower, but there were apparentl y no crossings in Roman times (earlier is a different matter). The Romans did not employ camels.

What the Romans called Mauritania is now called Morocco.

Yes, I know all of the books that say that there are Roman beads found in Mali, Niger, Mauritania, etc. The beads are not Roman, but Early Islamic in date.

I've done a lot of research on this topic, and the only Roman item reported south of the Sahara is an oil lamp that Peter Shinnie (a Canadian archaeologist) purchased in a market in Ghana. A find like this does not a Roman connection make.
~ Peace

 


 

Leelou:- tbay-ppp42437.sympatico.ca - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 20:39:14 (EST)
Hello everyone!
 

 


 

Eric:- 208.154.200.37 - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 17:54:05 (EST)
Ame, I mean the 40 last entries on the chat instead of 20 right now.
I live in Bamako-Mali since quite while. This is where fadila, my wife and myself got interested in beads. Fadila makes necklaces, earrings and bracelets with the beads she buys here on the market. She is having a big sale tomorrow morning and we are b usily preparing tonight.
Eric

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 17:44:24 (EST)
hi Dude

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 16:38:12 (EST)
BTW
I am working on my lousy typing skills but o far no improvemment!
lol

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 16:37:04 (EST)
Eric
Thanks for the permossion to share the pic
Where in Africa do you live?
As I am a fairly local ( within the US ) traveler I am always interested in other countries
Yes the slave trade dealt with beads along the coast and it was a POPULAR thing to use or cuurancy.
Saw a speacil on that last night...
I would love to see a board where we can share our work...
Is that possible? Pete
I am with you Eric
Hello Tarzan!!
I don't understand what the chat comment was whats the diffrence between 20 or 40??
Is anyone else confused??
 

 


 

Eric:- 208.154.200.37 - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 16:06:09 (EST)
Bye tarzan
 

 


 

Eric:- 208.154.200.37 - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 16:05:11 (EST)
Pete. Thanks for you response on the flat agate beads. I am however not entirely convinced. I have not seen any highly polished work of that age from West Africa. In fact there are quite some pretty old quartz beads around. The y would date from between AD 0 and AD 1000 and are not polished at all. I do not have the references but will check for them if my job leaves me any time. However I am only a short time in the bussines and learning. I certainly do not agree that there is a AD 700 pre Mediterranean contact period in West Africa. There are roman texts talking about Mauritania and the trade of gold, ivory and slaves (and beads ?) in the west of the continent (meaning not Nubia). In fact roman artefacts have been found in a grave in the Hoggar mountains. That is central Sahara. Once you got there from the north the worst of the desert crossing is over. Further south you can always quite easily come into the reach of water. Moreover, as a geologist, I know that the Sah ara was a much more humid place than than it is now. Camels were only introduced A.D.
So crossing the then very small desert or more likely dry savanna was not that much of a problem. I would compare it with going overland from Bamako to Niamey. Difficult in the dry season but perfectly possible as proven daily by people who still travel on foot like the Touaregs or the Peuls.
Greetings

 


 

Eric:- 208.154.200.37 - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 15:53:32 (EST)
Pete : No problem to send the pic around. In fact two questions or suggestions :
1. is it possible to have a spot to post a pic related to the chaton the website. I have the feeling other people would enjoy showing work they have done to others or show beads they would like some info about An image can be so much more expressive.
2. The chatchatchat on this chat seems to be increasing exponentchatly. Could we have 40 messages at once instead of 20. Is that possible? I do not think it would make a big difference for most in downlload time.

 


 

Eric:- 208.154.200.37 - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 15:48:50 (EST)
Ame : I do not know exactly who Tarzan is but living in Africa I prefer to be diplomatic and say hello, You never know

tarzan : Hello

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 15:01:33 (EST)
Since I have 4 sis's and a brother plus their kids I think I got off lightly! LOL

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 15:00:29 (EST)
Zepp
having a frustrating time?? sorry!
Bonnie
sounds alot like my christmas to do list!
And yes I did survive the family left aound 130 am the One sister conviently left behind my niece and another one took my son!!
Happy weaving!
 

 


 

:- a12.pm3-24.theriver.com - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 14:31:28 (EST)
Jungle me chiggers !!

 


 

Bonnie:- 206-25-49-198.ip.theriver.com - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 13:25:56 (EST)
Lisa, try going to www.yahoo.com, crafts, then beads. It will turn you on to the sites that can help you. Or www.suzannecooper.com happy beading !
Zepp, if you say so..........
Ame, hope you survived the crowd at your place. Going to do some loom work. Was requested a barette and matching ear ring set for my sister, Tanya...who left this morning.

 


 

Lisa:- ras-34.cinetwork.com - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 10:44:33 (EST)
I am looking for sites that are on subject of earrings done in brick stitch, thank you.
 

 

 


 

ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 04:07:22 (EST)
Whats with the Tarzan stuff ? ANY ONE??
I am feeling left out!!
Explain?

 


 

ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 04:04:50 (EST)
Please Eric???
I am asking with a sweet smile....

 


 

Pete:- acc-16.northnet.org - Friday, November 26, 1999 at 01:42:36 (EST)
AME and ERIC - With Eric's permission I would post it.
~ Peace

 


 

Juergen Busch:- spider-to074.proxy.aol.com - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 20:38:51 (EST)
Eric: .... Tarzan a replicant? Or "dear hunter" or "Jane-on- Hello-Ween"?
jungle me!


 

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 19:57:50 (EST)
Hello Debra
Sorry I missed you!

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 19:57:09 (EST)
Pete when you get a pic will you share it with us?
I would love to see this bead.

 


 

Pete:- acc-8.northnet.org - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 19:53:18 (EST)
ERIC - Certainly they are hand made. The conical drill sugessests pre Mediterranean contact, ca. 7th century AD, otherwise they would quickly adapt double tipped diamond drills. What made the holes is hard to say lacking a vinyl-s ilicate impression. I know these beads. I have long assumed they were from a mine that early Arab visitors said produced "agates of amany colors" or something like that, though I cannot be sure.
~ Peace

 


 

Debra:- proxy2-external.rdc1.ct.home.com - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 19:52:55 (EST)
Hello

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 18:42:35 (EST)
Takiing a break fromthe house!!
I would love to see your creation Bonnie
Can you send me a pic?
Addy is
ameg@tacomaclick.net
Hi Tarzan
Hola Angel I have no idea what else you said!!LOL
I don't have to cook everything thank heavens but the hostess MUST provide a clean home... MY downfall unfortunantly.
Oh well time to do the kids rooms!

 


 

Bonnie:- a29.pm3-53.theriver.com - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 15:32:31 (EST)
See the site on recycling feather beads. Those are like the beads I did to match my amulet bag set. I think they are so beautiful...especially worked into the old style white hearts.

 


 

Bonnie:- a29.pm3-53.theriver.com - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 15:16:42 (EST)
Hola Angel !!

 


 

angelfeet:- proxy.coqui.net - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 15:07:31 (EST)
Hola , estoy hambriente y cagao

 


 

Bonnie:- a29.pm3-53.theriver.com - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 15:00:02 (EST)
Ame,
Oh my goodness.I couldn't imagine cooking for that many. My prayers are with you as I struggle with my pies and bean bake. I got a real cool chevron from my friend that I just had to fix to wear for today. I put it on black round leather and used some old brass beads from Africa (so I was told) and a few other chevrons with it. I have the adjustable knots so it can be different lengths. I tell you the bead is so big you could hurt somebody with it. Hi Tarzan, me Jane !! Happy turkey !!

 


 

Eric:- 208.154.200.17 - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 14:52:49 (EST)
Hi tarzan

 


 

Eric:- 208.154.200.17 - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 14:52:11 (EST)
Pete and Beadman, The holes in the beads are maximum 4 to 4.5 mm wide for the largest beads and about 3 mm for the smaller beads. They are definitely conical, in the center of the bead they are probably not even 1 mm wide. I belie ve them to be handmade. One about 5 cm losange agate beads shows the hole coming to surface on one of the sides of the bead. I don't what happened to the poor thing but with a handlens I can not see distinctive markings on the inside of the hole.
By the way, yesterday I mailed 700000 K of pics in one go to Belgium and that went like a charm.

 


 

Eric:- 208.154.200.17 - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 14:45:21 (EST)
Pete and beadman, I am not joking abou filesize. However, I send you both a mail with a 45 K pic and just got that back to. Ther must be something wrong with the Malian telecom link to the US,. Not the first time. A while ago p arts of L.A. could not be reached because zone numbers changed and the system was not updated. Same happened to barbados. I will try other ways. The pics will arrive.
 

 


 

beadman@jdallen.cnchost.com:- ts017d31.oak-ca.concentric.net - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 12:31:41 (EST)
Eric - I agree with Peter that your files are remarkably large. The usual JPEG file for e-mailing is around 100K (+ or -). There's no point in sending an image that is more-detailed than the monitor of a computer can show. If you need to use real-world mail, my address is: P.O. Box 1582, Santa Rosa, CA 95402. However, I hope you can work the scans.

Peter, and everyone, I wish you all a great Thanksgiving. Jamey

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 12:20:23 (EST)
Thanks for that Bonnie!
I have about 25 coming over today!!
JOY!!

 


 

Bonnie:- 206-25-49-203.ip.theriver.com - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 11:09:58 (EST)
~PEACE

 


 

Bonnie:- 206-25-49-203.ip.theriver.com - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 11:05:55 (EST)
Ame, In the bead world we all come across a bit arrogant. Four kids, boy will you be busy today. Hey Peet, happy Thanksgiving !!

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 02:07:14 (EST)
OH Peet
I am sorry my advice sounded very arrogent!
I was dealing with 4 unrully kids at the time.
I do give the tigertail to my kids but because they usually loose the things befor they break.
For myself I use the flexwire since I can't kink or break it easily or even with my 6 year old playing with it.
 

 


 

Pete:- acc-9.northnet.org - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 01:48:22 (EST)
WOW.
EVERYONE IN THE US AND THOSE WHO SHARE WITH US - Happy Thanksgiving.
JÜRGEN - Thanks for the Greetings. P.S. Dad and Mom send it back to you with good wishes.
ERIC - There's no need to send such a large file. Hi-res doesn't work well, as few monitors are much more than 200-300 dpi anyway. All we need is one bead. Take an end shot (of the perforation), too. Small jpgs, please. I know my ISP won't accept hug e files. 300,000K? You've got to be joking (I hope).
~ Peace

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 23:09:13 (EST)
Hello Danielle!!!

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 23:07:49 (EST)
That's soft flexwire .019 gage

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 23:07:03 (EST)
I prefer flexwire for things I want to last.
I give the tigertail to my kids.

 


 

Peet:- pool-209-138-169-160-nwrk.grid.net - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 21:02:52 (EST)
Hello...I hope I'm not interrupting anything. I have for anyone who makes bead bracelets using Beadalon (.012" Tigertail). I've made a few bracelets with Beadalon that have broken and I'm wondering if Beadalon is safe for use with 6mm semi-precious stones. Has anyone experienced problems with Beadalon? Please advise. Thank you-Peet

 


 

danielle:- proxy33-ext.nt.tas.gov.au - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 20:08:16 (EST)
hello

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 17:57:23 (EST)
Thanks Bonnie your a doll
HAPPY Thanksgiving everyone!!!
Hope the turkey survived...LOL

 


 

Eric:- 208.154.200.23 - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 17:21:37 (EST)
Pete and Beadman. I sent you both a mail with some pics but they came back, could not be delivered. I just mailed them again. May be the file size was too big. PETE, you only want 10 or 15 K images. I usually send high resoluti on pics, size varies between 150000 and 300000 K. I'll see if I can do something about it but will have to crop and download winzip.

 


 

Bonnie:- a28.pm3-33.theriver.com - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 16:21:09 (EST)
Jurgen,
Thank you and you have a wonderful turkey day too !!
Ame,
I do small amulets, probably a 2"x3". I use the peyote stitch for them. I usually use a medicine bottle and I put my bead graph pattern taped to it and it makes the design so easy to follow. Just keep up the practice and you'll soon have it figured out. Y ou'll do great at the fair as it seems you are more unique with your beading instead of following all the bead magazines and doing their projects step by step. Not too many people are bleesed with the skill of doing their own work. Right on lady !! Well h ave a nice turkey day !!!

 


 

Bonnie:- a28.pm3-33.theriver.com - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 16:12:09 (EST)
Jurgen,
Thank you and you have a wonderful turkey day too !!
Ame,
I do small amulets, probably a 2"x3". I use the peyote stitch for them. I usually use a medicine bottle and I put my bead graph pattern taped to it and it makes the design so easy to follow. Just keep up the practice and you'll soon have it figured out. Y ou'll do great at the fair as it seems you are more unique with your beading instead of following all the bead magazines and doing their projects step by step. Not too many people are bleesed with the skill of doing their own work. Right on lady !! Well h ave a nice turkey day !!!

 

 


 

juergen busch:- spider-ta026.proxy.aol.com - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 12:57:54 (EST)
Happy "THANKSGIVING" to all of you!
PEACE for TURKEY!
juergen

 

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 11:32:17 (EST)
Bonnie
What size amulate bags? I really love those but I can't seem to make the dumb brick stitch come out LOOKING like a brick atich.
Oh well practice makes perfect right??
Thanks for your encouraging words. The western Washington fair is HUGE and so entering it is scarry!
I am always more tired then I think....LOL
 

 


 

Bonnie:- a14.pm3-33.theriver.com - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 11:02:54 (EST)
Gee, I am sorry Ame...I put your name where mine should have been last night. Guess I was more tired then I thought.
Well it sounds like we do play with the same beads. I do the 11's and smaller. A friend gave me some seeds that are very small and are made of turquoise. Your work sounds really unique and it is definately a talent you'll need to share with others at the fair. Also you can't let your Auntie down...bring home the blue !! I know what you mean also about visioning the picture in your mind and going from there. I do alot of one type of my amulets that I call ~Dreamscapes~ and they are of the landscapes of my favorite places. One was a mountain range in Durango, Colo. Sold it here in Az. to a lady who saw it and said it reminded her of home, Durango, Colo. small world sometimes. Have a bead-iful day !!

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 03:45:06 (EST)
BTW I have stated my typing stinks right??
Thats Antiques Road Show and preserving the proper time line and history
Ok?
Sketer whats at that address? To tired to see tonight.

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 03:42:24 (EST)
PS
I use Seed beads mainly with some chec crystal garnish
Mostly 11 and 12 of all types the more varied the greater texture and fun!!
On any piece I may combine 2-4 diffrent styles.
I see the image like a picture in my head so thats how I make it .
Is that to weird?
 

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 03:39:08 (EST)
Lissa- The tent stitch is a very fancy name for a half stich in cross stich.
Get it?
I use it on the canvass or cloth.
Bonnie -Although I would LOVE to rake the credit for the idea I can't. Got it from the antiques Road Show.
They daid its one of the best ways to preserve the references and proper tome line.

 


 

skitz:- 203.101.63.138 - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 03:03:54 (EST)
Ever one come to www.Skater.net.com.au

 


 

Ame:- a31.pm3-30.theriver.com - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 00:42:35 (EST)
P.S. what great ideas for an heirloom piece & how special to have the beads from your great Auntie framed with their story. Excellent idea !!

 


 

Ame:- a31.pm3-30.theriver.com - Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 00:37:53 (EST)
Ame,
Thanks for letting me know about the knitted bags. First off I'd have to be re-taught on how to knit and lose the count....yepper, been there a couple of times. What kind of beads do you like working with ? I am excited for you and the fair. That will be great exposure for your talents ! Llisa so much to keep up with those stitches...know the feeling. Catch ya tomorrow !

 


 

Lissa:- ip-54-063.scf.primenet.com - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 22:55:58 (EST)
Ame: What is tent stitch? I haven't heard of that one.

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 20:48:38 (EST)
PS
I have tried the knitted bead bags and I consistantly screw up the count!!
My hubbies Aunt (not the dead one :) ) does that and wins The grand champion at the fair every year she's the one who told me to enter
So I will trust her judgement.
What cha think??

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 20:45:28 (EST)
Bonnie
Thanks for the info I will try them I also have a hubby that works to help support my habit so I can buy fairly freely.
I actually had to add some extra insurance for them LOL
anyway I love to do the work I do and in the mean time I get paid for it what heaven
I think you should put the new so speacil beads on a piece of cloth or hat or something that can be passed down and held as a family heirloom with a piece of paper that tells their story.
I am awfully pushy about that but I have some left to me from my hubbies great Aunt and I put them in a sampler and framed it with a paper telling their story.
I don't peyote I use a tent stich on canvas and then add the borders and fringes . I had to make them VERY strong because my 6 year old LOVES to wear them and she breaks them too.
I am entering some in the fair next year because I have been told Iwill win.
Sorry this is so long but I wated to say everything at once.
 

 


 

:- a43.pm3-24.theriver.com - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 19:03:10 (EST)
p.s. just got Rings and Things new catalog they are also a wonderful company to trade with...check them out !!

 


 

Bonnie:- a43.pm3-24.theriver.com - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 18:52:16 (EST)
Ame,
I am so excited, had to share this with you ! A friend of mine just returned from a trip and said she picked me up some venetian beads and some skunk beads. I always love her gifts as they are of beads and gives me a bit of history on them and the places that she has been to. Kind of like I went too. I will use them with my old time white hearts. What do you think ? Ew, I bet they'll be nice. Have a nice evening at work ! Dress warm !!

 


 

Bonnie:- a26.pm3-33.theriver.com - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 18:04:13 (EST)
Ame,
p.s. have you tried the knitted bead bags ? They are awesome looking.

 


 

Bonnie:- a26.pm3-33.theriver.com - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 18:00:42 (EST)
Ame,
Glad to see you back ! Well I don't have a job to support my bead habbit but I have a husband that does. L.O.L. I bet the weather is cold in Washington. So do you peyote stitch? I just did a cat collar for a friend of mine. It is with seed beads and a cut bead in the center of the diamond. Like I say I get my beads at Rings and things etc. but I buy the nylon collars at Wal-mart as they are resonable. So I first do the loom work then sew it to the collar. Keep up the hen pecking.....I do the same...we all improve with age. I bet your place really looks nice with all of your talents...and beads just add such luster to it all. I hope you have a wonderful turkey day !! Bead happy !! ~PEACE

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 17:11:52 (EST)
weekewnds are fine with me
what day and time

 


 

Pete:- acc-34.northnet.org - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 16:56:01 (EST)
or
~ Peace

 


 

Pete:- acc-34.northnet.org - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 16:55:44 (EST)
EVERYONE - If we are going to chat (about beads) weekends is fine with me. How about you?
AME- To see the lovelorn messages, reset the little box that says "Display the last" to, oh, maybe 300. then scroll down.
ERIC - Yes, if you can, send me a scan. pfjr@northnet.org Please put in .jpg format and compress it so that it is only 10 or 15K. Thanks.
BONNY & TANYA (OR THE PERSON AT THERIVER.COM) - The idea was to chat about beads. That's why it is the Bead Chat line. It also functions as a bulletin board. But it's supposed to be about beads; bead history (which is my presonal interest, but not every one's) or any bead subject.
~ Pete

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 16:25:07 (EST)
Pete how would we know IF there was anyone else o the line with us?
Would their name appear somewhere?
I really am trying to improve my typing skills so far no luck

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 16:23:23 (EST)
Bonnie
I am from TacomaWash and thanks for the compliments
I do think they are beautiful and USEFULL
I have to much stuff in my housse already so I had to focus on usefull beautiful things.
Ya Know?
Tell your husband that I have a job to support my beading habit!
LOL

 


 

Bonnie:- a8.pm3-24.theriver.com - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 15:56:52 (EST)
Ame,
So where are you from. I was talking to my husband about the Bead chat and mentioned how some just disappear after a while. He informed me that they "got jobs". Had to laugh at that. Ame, where are you from ? I bet you barettes are beautiful ! I wish I wo uld have taken up embrodery years ago...I bet that really helps to blend the colors and do different bead work. Keep up your good work and I admire you to teach others. What a gift. Have a happy turkey day !!

 


 

Eric:- 208.154.200.25 - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 13:15:50 (EST)
Beadman and pete, I will mail youa pic of a fw of these beads later tonight or tomorrow

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 12:33:27 (EST)
BTW
I truelly appreciate all of the help you have given me Pete.
Is any one going to have a reasonable time for a general chat ?

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 12:31:35 (EST)
I am a beader in my area
I teach tent stitch and embroidery beading at our community schools
My class just finished thei first barrettes and I will teaching a advanced and beginner class in January.
If folks wish to chat about bead things that is great but if this is to remain a meesage board that seems to be working
.

 


 

:- a0.pm3-32.theriver.com - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 12:25:48 (EST)
P.S. what ever happened to Jhan and Milo or Daisy who was wanting a job at the bead store...?...I lost them with the teensick blue era.
 

 


 

Bonnie & Tanya:- a0.pm3-32.theriver.com - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 12:12:02 (EST)
Wish somebody would make up their mind. One lady, chats ago got told she was a bored housewife chatting on this site as it was to be a message board for ~ serious bead folks ~ Then some man gets all huffy as nobody comes here to fin d the history on beads and I do believe that is what the other woman wanted.... now we want to chat ??? I am confused but sounds okay too.....We're all aging children with a tale to tell. Perhaps some are in New Orleons visiting or some live in a differen t country. I think the main thing that brought us here is BEADS. Now may we go and try to be kind to each other. I am a beader in my area. Popular to my area for my seed bead work, medicine bags and Southwest items. My latest amulet bag set was made of cu t beads and white hearts with feather beads. I do the braclets in memory wire, some purole garnets and pearls. I am lucky that I get to do my bead trades with Bovis bead co. Have a Bead-iful day all !!
 

 


 

beadman@jdallen.cnchost.com:- ts010d41.oak-ca.concentric.net - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 06:36:43 (EST)
Eric - If you can e-mail me a scan of your beads from Bamako, I'll take a look and reply with an opinion. Jamey

 


 

debra:- lwc110.ixks.com - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 03:49:44 (EST)
Pete
I work in the evenings so I can't chat then, it has to be
in the daytime or on weekends

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 01:27:47 (EST)
Hi Fred and Bo I am new too.

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 01:26:56 (EST)
Whats with the love sick teenagers?
Who was the object of her/his affections??
Yes I am incredibly nosey...my worst trait. ;)

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 01:25:50 (EST)
I am usually on line around 10 Pacific time but I check in all day since I get alot of mail
Any time everyone thinks is good works for me.
Just post it and I will be there.

 


 

Pete:- acc-21.northnet.org - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 01:21:51 (EST)
TANYA, AME, STARTER, ETC. - This is a chat line, though most people don't treat it as one. The love-sick kids last week proved that. All that needs to happen is for us all to get together at the same time and chat. I've been tryi ng to do this for some time and asking for input as to when the best time to do that is. For me, that is after 8 pm EST virtually any night. Input, anyone?
ERIC - I can't quite picture them, but I think I get the general idea. What is color of the agate? What is the diameter of the perforation?
~ Peace

 

 


 

Eric:- 208.154.200.21 - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 10080 - 208.154.200.21 - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 17:37:39 (EST)
Hello,we recently acquired an intruiging agate bead necklace in Bamako. It consists of very flat losange shaped agate beads. The individual beads are up to 6.5 cm long and 5.5 cm wide and are less than a cm thick. They hyave nice ly rounded edges and are perforated along the greatest lenght. The perforations seem hand made considering their conical form. The agate is often quite beautiful with delicate colour zonations and has obviously been well choosen. I have found no refere nce to this kind of beads as being made in India (lots of those on the market. Somebody told me they could be as old as 3000 years. Any clues ????? There are obvious recent imitations (sic) in babaghoria agate or some sort of carnelian. These are much smaller (biggest one I have is only 3 cm long), have squared edges and are far from being as well finished or elegent.

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 14:30:56 (EST)
Thanks for the book name Pete
I will get it.

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 13:10:58 (EST)
Hi San
Sorry Starter I was confused too.
 

 


 

Tanya:- 206-25-49-198.ip.theriver.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 10:44:57 (EST)
Sorry starter, this isn't a bead chat line...it is more of a message board. I didn't mean to ignore you and hope you found a chat site that chatted back.

 


 

starter:- cns-0102-139.ports.iprimus.com.au - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 04:17:38 (EST)
hi tanya im australian

 


 

starter:- cns-0102-139.ports.iprimus.com.au - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 04:15:40 (EST)
talk to me im new to this program

 


 

debra:- lwc111.ixks.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 00:10:06 (EST)
anyone here

 


 

Pete:- acc-73.northnet.org - Sunday, November 21, 1999 at 21:56:42 (EST)
AME - A Survey of Beads in Korea. Go to Book Store (above)/ Beads in East Asia.
JAMEY - Hi.
~ Peace

 

 


 

beadman@jdallen.cnchost.com:- ts005d21.oak-ca.concentric.net - Sunday, November 21, 1999 at 06:30:17 (EST)
Mr. Chong Oon Meng - I am currently writing a major article on Zi beads from Tibet, that will be published in the New Year. I'll announce its release here, when I know it's in-print. In the meantime, please feel free to e-mail me anytime. New Zi beads from Taiwan (and elsewhere) range in quality from the very-fake-looking to the practically-indestinguishable. The best beads pass muster quite easily, and are now available even in up-country Tibet——where they are sold for a lot of money. It's a scary situation. In my article, I will show lots of examples of real and fake beads. Jamey

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, November 21, 1999 at 00:25:17 (EST)
I didn't see alot of info on this in all the books I have read
Is there a good specific book on this?
 

 


 

Pete:- acc-67.northnet.org - Saturday, November 20, 1999 at 22:07:05 (EST)
AME - Traditionally, Korean women made silk-wound beads on wooden beads at home. Today it is an industry, using plastic beads as the base.
~ Peace

 


 

Lissa:- 208-48-174-52.nas-2.scf.primenet.com - Saturday, November 20, 1999 at 18:04:40 (EST)
Jacquelyn: If you do a search on 'rose petal beads' you will find several sites with directions. One I have bookmarked is http://www.mtsu.edu/~kgregg/dmir/14/rose_beads.html

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Saturday, November 20, 1999 at 15:39:16 (EST)
has anyone heard of beads made out of silk or silk ribbons?
 

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Saturday, November 20, 1999 at 15:38:25 (EST)
I am on line...
 

 


 

Jacquelyn:- spider-wd072.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, November 20, 1999 at 13:34:05 (EST)
Does anyone know how to make beads out of flower petals?

 


 

debra:- lwc112.ixks.com - Saturday, November 20, 1999 at 03:56:54 (EST)
hi

 


 

Sandy:- 203.41.196.3 - Friday, November 19, 1999 at 22:34:28 (EST)
Is anyone on line at the moment?
 

 


 

Pete:- acc-43.northnet.org - Friday, November 19, 1999 at 21:38:57 (EST)
ANGIE - Thanks for your kind words. The second edition is coming very soon. It will be announced and sold here first. Buy it from the site and you can have it autographed (big deal).
TANYA - Sorry my book wasn't so useful to you. Jamey and Jürgen are definately NOT the same person.
AME - And thank you for your complements.

Maybe everyone should visit The World's Biggest Bookstore. There is a link above.
~ Peace

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, November 19, 1999 at 18:20:41 (EST)
Combining my crummy typing and my no spell check I am surprised anyone can read these!

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, November 19, 1999 at 18:19:36 (EST)
Tanya I share your icks for plastic beads.
But they are what the site owner wants...I tried to persueduad him glass has class but ni dice.Pete you wrote THAT book?
Cool I love that book.
Thanks for all your help.
 

 


 

Tanya:- a11.pm3-32.theriver.com - Friday, November 19, 1999 at 10:03:42 (EST)
Followed this site long enough with my sister to also know Jamie is Jurgen aka Tarzan.

 


 

Tanya:- a11.pm3-32.theriver.com - Friday, November 19, 1999 at 10:00:23 (EST)
Ame, go back in the messages and you will find about 100 or so back a place that carries plastic beads......yuck, always have disliked plastic unless it is in a plate or cup. It has something to do with brilliant city in the addy. A ngie, what part of the country are you from ? That book in paticular didn't help me in my bead search. P.S. the library can also get that book for you.

 


 

Angie:- dialup-tamax5126.mpx.com.au - Friday, November 19, 1999 at 02:43:32 (EST)
Pete: I just got your book, "Beads of the World" and want to thank you for creating it. It is very useful for bead identification and has lots of info I haven't seen before. The pictures are great, and the price guide is very useful .I recommend it to all you beady buddies out there.

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 12:47:20 (EST)
Thank you!!
I will be patient.
 

 


 

Pete:- acc-29.northnet.org - Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 02:55:35 (EST)
AME - Ill get it.
JÜRGEN - I asked him to return. Hope he gets your message.
~ Peace

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, November 17, 1999 at 12:24:30 (EST)
Pete I sent you a email through the ..contacy us .. link.
Heres my addy Please email me. I am looking for a Plastics bead manufacturer that will do speacil orders.
I can't seem to find one that dos speacil orders.
ANY IDEAS ANYONE??
ameg@tacomaclick.net

 


 

Jürgen Busch:- spider-wm015.proxy.aol.com - Wednesday, November 17, 1999 at 10:18:29 (EST)
Chong Meng: I have no serious knowledge on dzi`s, but own all back issues of the Bead Journal. If you let me know which articles you need and have no other way to get them, I could send you copies!
You could contact me under "juebusch@aol.com"

 

 


 

Pete:- acc-1.northnet.org - Wednesday, November 17, 1999 at 01:26:10 (EST)
MR. CHONG - It just dawned on me that you are in Singapore.
~ Peace

 


 

Pete:- acc-1.northnet.org - Wednesday, November 17, 1999 at 01:25:23 (EST)
MR. CHONG - (He had emailed me earlier about this). None of the old Bead Journals discuss the modern Taiwanese stone fakes, if that is what you are interested in.
ANYONE (JAMEY maybe) - Can you tell the difference between genuine and the new dZi beads?
AME - Did not get your email. This is both a chat line and a bulletin board. Mostly people post messages and come back later. People do also chat on it, as the recent lovelorn have shown us. I am usually here around 1 a.m. EST.
I don't quite understand your question about the email box. Your ISP is tacomaclick.net. ISP = Internet Service Provider.
~ Peace
 

 


 

Mr. Chong Oon Meng:- palo7.pacific.net.sg - Tuesday, November 16, 1999 at 22:13 concerning Tibetan Dzi beads.

My email address is omcventures@pacific.net.sg

 


 

Mr. Chong Oon Meng:- palo7.pacific.net.sg - Tuesday, November 16, 1999 at 22:10:54 (EST)
Do anybody out there have information on Tibetan Dzi Beads.
How can I identify the real from the fake.
There are some articles in the Beads Journal (now called Ornament), but I can't
get hold of it.

Thanks

Thanks
 

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 16, 1999 at 13:23:16 (EST)
Do I have a email box with you all?
Please explain my ISP
THANKS

 

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 16, 1999 at 12:39:38 (EST)
Pete did you get the email I sent you?
 

 

 

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, November 16, 1999 at 12:30:25 (EST)
Thanks Pete
for the info. My system is screwy so I always expect it to do weird things...
How do we talk?Is this a BB or a chat? I am always curious ;)
I will go to the homepage thanks!!

 


 

beads:- 202.101.120.82 - Tuesday, November 16, 1999 at 12:09:48 (EST)
Ame: pls go to our hompage at: www.bcity.com/brilliant , and we have plastic beads, and almost all of kinds beads, try to do it.
ALL: Pls visit it again, as I pasted some new indian beads.

 


 

Helen:- spider-wn021.proxy.aol.com - Tuesday, November 16, 1999 at 09:02:43 (EST)
Stefany: Thanks! That was exactly the info I was looking for.

 


 

bouncingsouls:- ppp13-42.eisa.net.au - Tuesday, November 16, 1999 at 03:45:37 (EST)
hello anyone want to talk

 


 

Pete:- acc-81.northnet.org - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 22:51:12 (EST)
Oh, good, No lovesick teens.
AME - The line that appears after your name is not your email address. It is your ISP (tacomaclick.net) with the line you happen to be on at the moment (they've named this one "robin," They are usually numbers).
STEFANY - Thanks.
STEFANY - Thanks.
;-)
~ Peace

 


 

celia:- ppp39-211.thecia.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 22:35:37 (EST)
of all assorted sizes, sorry

 


 

celia:- ppp39-211.thecia.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 22:35:14 (EST)
you can find seed beads at beadcats-Virginia Blakelock and Carol Pernoud bead shop online

 


 

Stefany:- lon-qbu-bsi-vty25.as.wcom.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 18:46:23 (EST)
HELEN: In Ireland you will find a kind of pale green Serpentine stone cut into beads and made into necklaces with silver clasps, called "Connemara Marble", also the local Victorian mourning jewellery was carved out of "Bog Oak" and resembled jet -but a typical distinctive pattern was little plaques showing views of ruined chapels! They were threaded together as bracelets. Both are illustrated in my book "The Bead Jewellery Book". You may also find contemporary "Celtic" handcrafted s ilver, and the most traditional Irish gold wedding rings showing clasped hands and hearts; known as "Claddagh" I think.

 


 

Stefany:- lon-qbu-bsi-vty25.as.wcom.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 18:44:34 (EST)
HELEN: In Ireland you will find a kind of pale green Serpentine stone cut into beads and made into necklaces with silver clasps, called "Connemara Marble", also the local Victorian mourning jewellery was carved out of "Bog Oak" and resembled jet -but a typical distinctive pattern was little plaques showing views of ruined chapels! They were threaded together as bracelets. Both are illustrated in my book "The Bead Jewellery Book". You may also find contemporary "Celtic" handcrafted s ilver, and the most traditional Irish gold wedding rings showing clasped hands and hearts; known as "Claddagh" I think.

 


 

CATE: SCHUMACK@OLYPEN.COM:- ppp-1101.olypen.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 15:30:45 (EST)
NEED SOURCE FOR SEED BEADS SIZE 18 AND SMALLER CAN YOU HELP?

 


 

CATE: SCHUMACK@OLYPEN.COM:- ppp-1101.olypen.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 15:29:07 (EST)
I AM INTRESTED IN FINDING SOURCES FOR THE VERY TINY ANTIQUE

 


 

ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 12:25:04 (EST)
having trouble with address please be patient
 

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 12:21:31 (EST)
my address is wrong on this its ameg@tacomaclick.net
 

 


 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 12:19:36 (EST)
I am looking for a plastic bead to be laminated or silkscreened on and someone to doit.
 

 


 

Pete:- acc-26.northnet.org - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:10:14 (EST)
BEEEDZ - Can't help you with the wholesaler, but someone will be able to. Yes, we'll remove the garbage from the archive. Trying to figure out how to get it off in the first place. It just may be a matter of time.
~ Peace

 


 

Bonnie:- a32.pm3-24.theriver.com - Sunday, November 14, 1999 at 23:52:14 (EST)
Jurgen, Jerkman, Creambead, or Tarzan,
I thought this was a 'bulitin board' for "serious" bead people not bored househusbands like yourself. I mean really, you are too much. Next you'll be telling us about your religion. Oops, I can tell by the hate in your veins you arn't a Christian man. I c an't pass judgement on John Lennon first of all I never knew the man and gee I'm not God, but you sure think you are. Tell me Jurgen, do you really have little man syndrome or are you a natural at being a negative person who makes no sense and appears to know nothing about beads. Who really is too much ?

 


 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Sunday, November 14, 1999 at 23:49:35 (EST)
Pete: Not being knowledgeable about the rules and regulations of chat lines, I just wanted to ask if there is any way to remove the GARBAGE from the archives. ?????

 


 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Sunday, November 14, 1999 at 23:46:10 (EST)
MESSAGE FOR BEAD PEOPLE ONLY!!!--That means: 1) people who study, collect, or simply enjoy talking about the objects known as beads, whether antique or modern; 2) anyone involved in the business of creating jewelry utilizing these b eloved objects known as "Beads", 3) and etc.(you know who you are). I've looked extensively through the huge lists of wholesale suppliers of jewelry findings; no, I'm not to cheap or lazy to purchase catalogs, but in the interest of time, can any of you fellow bead (as in "personal adornment") enthusiasts suggest particularly reliable and customer-friendly wholesale suppliers with whom you have done business? Thanks for any assistance you can give.

 


 

 


 

90210:- dial3-16.yar.klis.com - Sunday, November 14, 1999 at 13:50:22 (EST)
what kind of beads
 

 


 

90210:- dial3-16.yar.klis.com - Sunday, November 14, 1999 at 13:49:37 (EST)
hi ever1
 

 


 

ashley:- 195.44.232.37 - Sunday, November 14, 1999 at 05:30:38 (EST)
hello r u there

 


 

ashley:- 195.44.232.37 - Sunday, November 14, 1999 at 05:27:52 (EST)
hello i love beads

 


 

Pete (webmaster):- acc-39.northnet.org - Sunday, November 14, 1999 at 02:26:49 (EST)
ROGER, TOPLESS, EAT, ETC - Get the h off our line. This is for people interested in beads not in your bodily functions.
HELEN - Check out rosary beads. There were some local glass beadmakers at one time. Let me know what you find.
EVERYONE - Amy Mc is looking for elastic thin enough to use with seed beads. Can anyone help?
ANGI - Beading conversations do happen here. Lately we've been flooded by idiots who think this is a love line.
JÜRGEN - If you don't get it, I'm not explaining it to you here.
~ Peace (or is it war?)

 

 

 


 

Angi:- annex1061.mscomm.com - Saturday, November 13, 1999 at 23:56:28 (EST)
Okay, this looks interesting, but not like we have a beading conversation going... do beading conversations happen here?

 

 

 


 

Wilsongreen: - h47-209-250-240.mesh.net - Saturday, November 13, 1999 at 20:58:47 (EST)
Hi I am loking for instructions on a Square Stitch or Flat Stitch. I have also heard it called a fake loom stitch. Does anyone have any clues where I can find instructions on this technique? If so e-mail me at wilsongreen@yahoo.com. Thanks.

 


 

Amy Mc.: - c4-167.ebicom.net - Saturday, November 13, 1999 at 19:57:10 (EST)
Okay. Well, if you a site that has what I need, just post the address so I can get it next time I check in. Thanks for your help.

 


 

Amy Mc.: - c4-167.ebicom.net - Saturday, November 13, 1999 at 19:50:19 (EST)
I'm back. Do you know where to order elastic online?

 

 

 


 

Amy McKay: - c7-96.ebicom.net - Saturday, November 13, 1999 at 15:24:27 (EST)
Where might I find elastic thin enough to string seed beads? I saw a reference to Elastasoft, but it was on a wholesale site and I was not eligible to buy. Thank you.

 

 


 

Juergen Busch: - spider-tp013.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, November 13, 1999 at 11:42:04 (EST)
Pete: indeed - I didn´t get it. Sex beads...? I toy for men? Or beaders...? Does Peyote-stitch get a mew meaning here? Could you explain for blonds? Confront me with the details!
Bonnie: Yeah-yeah-yeah! How did you know (the word "little" is meant)? John Lennon? This addict who wanted to "give beads a chance"? Imagine - he also said: "Beatles and kids first" in an expected plane crash (history, yes!)
Peader (again): true! One good contact can be worth the rest.
Helen: all Pete´s in this world won´t have an answer for your request. Why not Scotland? Everything´s cheap there.
This is 1999 - global playing!

Nessy "the walrus"
your chemical warhead

 


 

Helen: - spider-wm073.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, November 13, 1999 at 10:50:44 (EST)
Pete-I may have an opportucan I get there that I will not find anywhere else?

 


 

Pete: - acc-21.northnet.org - Saturday, November 13, 1999 at 02:47:34 (EST)
Whew!
DEBRA - I know you were not trying to sell me anything. I was just saying that the combination sounded good to me, but not being someone looking to buy you should not just take my word for it. BONNIE (thanks) has been giving you more valuable feedback. She's right. Do what works for you.
JÜRGEN 1. With all the puns and jokes you try to make, I thought you would understand Stef's bead/bed allusion. Yes, there are "sex beads." This is an "everyone friendly" site, so I have never mentioned them before, but they often place high in search e ngines. Anyway, I think people were just looking for "chat" rather than "bed." 2. Give the WBC a chance. Do you expect everything to happen at once? You've made one good contact you wouldn't have made otherwise. Be grateful for small favors. 3. Emai l me about the poster.
BONNIE - Right on.
BETSY - We are going to have patterns here starting very soon.
;-) I love it when this gets lively. But, let's all keep a civil head.
~ Peace (like it or not)
 

 


 

lauz: - htip-a-002-pool-66.tmns.net.au - Saturday, November 13, 1999 at 02:33:05 (EST)
hello! Is anyone out there please talk to me
luv ya lauren
 

 


 

Betsy: - 208.46.176.147 - Saturday, November 13, 1999 at 00:48:19 (EST)
Hi! I am a new beader and am looking for resources. Particularily catalogs of beads, and patterns for beading. I am into Peyote, loom, and wire necklaces. Any help would be appreciated.

 


 

Bonnie: - a1.pm3-32.theriver.com - Friday, November 12, 1999 at 16:46:00 (EST)
Debra,
I too do the amulets, along with a million items. The gems will look excellent in the fringe and strap. Try going to www.suzannecooper.com (I think) they have a great site to see what the other beaders are doing. They also have a chat line that will be mo re into what you are doing and er

 


 

Bonnie: - a35.pm3-30.theriver.com - Friday, November 12, 1999 at 12:20:41 (EST)
Jurgen, you are right, peace is "just" a word. Wouldn't it be nice though if we were all a bit kinder to each other? I find alot of people who use the word are to caught up in themselves, and their fast paced lifestyle but, if you a rn't familar with John Lennon's "Imagine" then you need to read the words. And to you Jurgen I say "peace". You seem like a negative little fellow though so I am not sure you will get it.

 


 

Bonnie: - 206-25-49-201.ip.theriver.com - Friday, November 12, 1999 at 11:56:06 (EST)
Debra,
150 items later I saw your question. If you think it looks good together then do it. Everybody has different taste, so try to please yourself and don't worry about if it will sale or not. Put you into it, not outside influences. This always seems to work the best for me. I make something I like and usually sell it while it was being worn. Believe in your own creativity !

 


 

Bonnie: - 206-25-49-201.ip.theriver.com - Friday, November 12, 1999 at 11:33:54 (EST)
I am sure Jurgen that there are alot of people interested in the "his"tory of beads. Unfortunately you need to be careful where you look or to whom you talk to. Missed the sex talk but one way to rid it is to ignore it.

 


 

Juergen Busch: - spider-tm021.proxy.aol.com - Friday, November 12, 1999 at 10:29:49 (EST)
PETE: I doubt that the similarity of the words "BED" and "BEAD" is the reason for the recent sex-tivities on this site. The editors of the Bead Study Trust from UK (something all of you should consider to subscribe!) told in their r ecent newsletter:
".....put in a simple search (search-engine of "altavista" is meant)for beads....and some at least were hardcore pornography".
Not only therefore I doubt that a mis-spelling of the word bead (or bed) can be the reason. Does sex happens in bed...? Sex happens in people´s brains these days!

Bonnie: ....guess I was kidding!

Members of "World Bead Saints": It was basically a good idea to set up the "World Bead Strain". Nevertheless it seems that there is not much traffic on the site - probably due to the VERY differing interests of the members. Most are beaders, some just lo oking for bead sources (no kidding!), but hardly anybody seems to be interested in the history of beads and their makers. I tried different members, but....!?! Only one (Hi "digger"!) remains on my list! Aggrey-vating!
Any suggestion how this could be changed to give it sense?

"Hinting PETE" (again): there is a lovely new exibition poster available in Germany (showing an early century beaded bag in a lovely color shot and ca. 30 x 40cm in size). If you were interested to do the distribution, I could order several. From what I h eard, they are slowly running out of them. Price is reasonable!

 

 


 

debra: - lwc134.ixks.com - Friday, November 12, 1999 at 03:48:57 (EST)
hi Pete
I was not trying to sell you anything... : )
I'am going to take them to a store where I live, they have
stuff that other people bring in and I hope that someone
likes the work I do.

 


 

Bonnie: - 206-25-49-212.ip.theriver.com - Friday, November 12, 1999 at 00:34:22 (EST)
Both my sister and I are beaders. Blue eyes and blonde...
Any problem with that Jurgen ?

 


 

beads: - 202.96.119.107 - Thursday, November 11, 1999 at 23:16:01 (EST)
Peter: Tku for ur kindly reply.Yes, I can loggin another hotmail, such like bcity , only for hotmail is damaged.
Still couldn't repair it.

 


 

Pete (webmaster): - acc-10.northnet.org - Thursday, November 11, 1999 at 23:09:21 (EST)
ALL BEADERS - Well, I guess this shows that it really works as a chat line. If you have missed older postings set the "Display the last" to 150 or so and hit your Enter Key. The last 150+ messages (mostly a heated discussion about someone's love life) will appear and you can scroll down and read bead stuff.
Interestingly, Jürgen seems to have chased them away rather quickly. Thanks. I answered posts yesterday and that answer is about 125 posts down.
This happens every once in a while because we are well indexed in most search engines. Maybe Stef is right. They read "bead" and think "bed." It comes and goes.
ADAM, MATT, ZOE ETC., ETC. - This is really about beads. We are serious about them. Go somewhere slse or I'll report you to your ISP and you will have nowhere to go and chat.
DEBORAH - The combinations sound fine, but I am not looking to buy, so you might post your question again.
BEADS - Hotmail, like all Microsoft products, has several flaws. You might try another web-based service (Excite, for example). Can't you get a mailbox from your ISP or bcity.com?
JÜRGEN AND JHAN - Alden B. was (if I remember correctly) the youngest of seven sons of the man who started Dow Chemical. But he was never interested in the chemical business and wanted to be an architect. He studied under Frank Lloyd Wright and became A rchitect Lauriate of the state of Michigan. As far as I know, this is the only person to hold such a position in the U.S. His work is all over Midland, which is a neat small town. I didn't know there would be so much concern. I thought about mentionin g it on the page, but the post was already too long. Maybe I should.
~ Peace

 


 

Jhan: - ospreysystems.com - Thursday, November 11, 1999 at 15:35:48 (EST)
I've looked at the Alden Dow site, and best as I can tell it's not associated with Dow Chemicals at all. (I thought the same thing at first too.)

 


 

Juergen Busch: - spider-we072.proxy.aol.com - Thursday, November 11, 1999 at 14:33:47 (EST)
PETE again: despite SEX - I can´t release you to answer the question if the "Alden B. Dow Creativity Center" has anything in common with "DOW Chemicals".

Jürgen
aka "Agent blue"

 


 

Juergen Busch: - spider-we072.proxy.aol.com - Thursday, November 11, 1999 at 14:31:41 (EST)
Pete: guess you should consider a pass-word to get this "blond" kids out. Wonder how they find you? What beads and sex might have in common? Did I missed something so far?
Can´t be the shape - can´t be color or design.

Maybe their blue "eyes"....?

At least you got confirmed that you set up something SEXY!

porNO (at least not here)
Juergen (blond and blue eyed)

 

 


 

beads: - 202.96.119.123 - Thursday, November 11, 1999 at 14:20:33 (EST)
Peter, Daisy,William: My hotmail email box was damaged by someone. Who can help me? Help!

Come to visit our hompage at: www.bcity.com/brilliant

 


 

Juergen Busch: - spider-to021.proxy.aol.com - Thursday, November 11, 1999 at 07:36:56 (EST)
PETE: is the "ALDEN B. DOW Creativity Center" you praise on your site in any way related to "DOW CHEMICALS"....????

peacemaker
 

 


 

debra: - lwc188.ixks.com - Thursday, November 11, 1999 at 04:28:20 (EST)
I would like to make a necklace or two useing sunstone and
leopard skin jasper or maybe to make one with labradorite and
carnelian, tell me if you think that would look ok.
I think they look good together, but if nobody buys it,
I'am not going to put all the work into it.
I'll be back here later

 


 

Pete: - acc-16.northnet.org - Thursday, November 11, 1999 at 01:58:48 (EST)
JHAN - Actually, it is a chat line. Also, unless you have bookmarked this page (which is probably not a good idea) you should pass through the introductory page that explains it. We get a burst of these people every once in a whil e. I am beginning to think it has something to do with search engine placements. Just ignore them.
STEFANY - What a hoot.
TIFFANY - Go to the Home Page, Ancient Beads, India.
~ Peace

 


 

tiffany: - rvc27146.rvc.cc.il.us - Wednesday, November 10, 1999 at 20:52:57 (EST)
Hey antony. Do you know anything or where I can find anything on ancient india beads?

 


 

tiffany: - rvc27146.rvc.cc.il.us - Wednesday, November 10, 1999 at 20:50:54 (EST)
hello

 

 


 

Stefany Tomalin: - lon-qbu-bsi-vty56.as.wcom.net - Wednesday, November 10, 1999 at 15:33:13 (EST)
THe trouble is that some people cant read and think this is a "BEDSIDE CHAT LINE". Dear Jhan, just imagine if they think its the "BEDSIDE MASSAGE LINE" !

 

 


 

walter: - klee.moma.org - Wednesday, November 10, 1999 at 11:45:12 (EST)
who knows about beads

 


 

walter: - klee.moma.org - Wednesday, November 10, 1999 at 11:42:44 (EST)
hello
 

 


 

Jhan: - ospreysystems.com - Wednesday, November 10, 1999 at 08:21:51 (EST)
Pete- What do you think about changing the name of this board from "The Bead Site Chat Line" to "The Bead Site Message Line" or something similar? Something that might help people make the distincting between this board and a chat r oom?

Just a thought

 


 

terrylu: - dialupaa235.sttl.uswest.net - Tuesday, November 09, 1999 at 21:29:09 (EST)
does anyone out there know of any books on making beaded lampshades? thanks

 


 

renee: - pool0657.cvx18-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Tuesday, November 09, 1999 at 19:03:08 (EST)
Johnny, Hot Shot - This is reported to be a bead chat line,
but it is really a message board. I only logged on because
I was trying to locate a beader that I saw pictured on a link
of this site. No luck, so I won't be back. But I just thought
I'd let you know.
Jockster - No response is deserved...

 

 


 

Pete: - acc-26.northnet.org - Monday, November 08, 1999 at 17:53:17 (EST)
COLLEEN - It's probably "karma". They are probably similar to Mala or Power beads (see story on home page). Do they match up? Usually it's material rather than color that is important.
THE OTHERS - People don't chat too often, but it can work that way. If you have a question for us, post it.
~ Peace

 

 


 

Colleen: - mail.transitionsgroup.net.140.89.216.in-addr.arpa - Monday, November 08, 1999 at 10:15:16 (EST)
I received a gift today...a bracelet of "carma beads". I was told that the color the beads have special meaning...wondering what they are?? (Mine are brown.)

 


 

Pete: - acc-29.northnet.org - Monday, November 08, 1999 at 02:14:32 (EST)
SHEKKY - I'm pleased to see you've gotten so much help.
JURGEN - Sure, it's good to have everyone back. Sorry I can't help you with THEREALTHING I probably got nearly the last set around 1976.
"Peace" is more than just a word. It has a great deal of personal meaning to me.
~ Peace

 


 

justine: - pool1160.cvx12-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Sunday, November 07, 1999 at 03:11:12 (EST)
miffy we are here - 12:00 november 7, 1999 here in LA beading
the night away. Our first nite on line - what's up?

 


 

justine: - pool1160.cvx12-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Sunday, November 07, 1999 at 03:07:09 (EST)
miffy we are here - 12:00 november 7, 1999 here in LA beading
the night away. Our first nite on line - what's up?

 


 

Miffy: - 202.61.194.7 - Sunday, November 07, 1999 at 02:48:29 (EST)
Hello is anyone there?
 

 


 

Stefany : - lon-qbu-bsk-vty30.as.wcom.net - Saturday, November 06, 1999 at 19:43:34 (EST)
Shelley- I have a couple of those pincushions which may date back to the Boer War soldiers in S.Africa and include regimental crests as well as love messages and one has photos of military generals! I am in contact with someone rese arching "Trench Art" =collectable souvenir things made by soldiers or prisoners-of-War. Could give you the contact if you get in touch personally. I'm StefanyTomalinBeads@compuserve.com

 


 

juergen busch: - spider-wl071.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, November 06, 1999 at 16:19:45 (EST free to ask me if you need an inside report on OLD New Orleans!
And yes, I do own all backissues of "The Bead Journal" in photocopy. What I want is THEREALTHING.

Peace is just a word!
juergen

 


 

Helen: - spider-wl072.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, November 06, 1999 at 11:25:55 (EST)
Shelley: See if you can find Pincushions by Averil Colby. It is mainly a how-to book, but has many photos of old pincushions. There is no index, but has a chapter on "Souvenirs, gifts and love tokens". You could try a search engin e and see if you can find an embroiderer's guild that may have info-either the Embroiderer's Guild of America or American Standards Council of something (I used to be a member and can't remember the name). Let me know how you do-I'll see if I can find mor e. Did you want American or English?

 


 

beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Saturday, November 06, 1999 at 01:37:01 (EST)
LISSA & PETE - thanks for the new Bead Fairies URL!

 


 

Pete: - acc-71.northnet.org - Friday, November 05, 1999 at 22:56:43 (EST)
The new URL for the Bead Fairies Page is:
http://members.home.net/sdsantan/beadfairies.html
~Peace

 


 

renee page: - pool0100.cvx18-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Friday, November 05, 1999 at 21:03:50 (EST)
JERRY - there are a lot of Indian websites, check with them, I am sure they can get you in the
right direction. Pete has the right idea but the Indian websites will be more
precise. Good luck

 


 

Pete: - acc-71.northnet.org - Friday, November 05, 1999 at 21:01:02 (EST)
JERRY - What sort of necklaces? Beaded or just beads strung on a string? There is lots of information on the former. For the latter, they just striung them on a string. I am not sure what was used before Europeans came for the s tring, but they managed something. Sinew and various fibers would have been employed, as well as thongs of leather.
SHELLY - I have not heard of this. I hope someone can help. I'd be interested myself.
~ Peace
 

 


 

Shelley Stewart: - meredith4.mdp.com - Friday, November 05, 1999 at 13:23:21 (EST)
Does anyone give me some historical background on the craft of pin-beading? I'm doing an article for a crafts magazine, and am coming up blank in my research. I understand that Sailors in the early 19th century used to make "sailors valentines" by sticking pins through seed beads and using them to make intricate designs on stuffed "pincushions." I need more. Please help me if you can. Thanks!

 


 

renee page: - pool0006.cvx18-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Friday, November 05, 1999 at 11:34:49 (EST)
Thanks Pete

 


 

Jerry: - spider-ta082.proxy.aol.com - Friday, November 05, 1999 at 08:54:22 (EST)
My granddaughter has got to take to school information on how the Anercian Indian made necklaces. Can anyone give me a place to look? Thanks. TX

 


 

Jhan: - ospreysystems.com - Friday, November 05, 1999 at 08:27:44 (EST)
donald- This is more of a message board than a chat room. Most of us visit periodically throughout the day, and don't stay glued to this one screen. Sorry.

 


 

Pete: - acc-47.northnet.org - Friday, November 05, 1999 at 01:37:18 (EST)
Wow. We sure have heated up.
JAMEY - Great to have you back. New Orleans is one of the few corners of our country I haven't visited and am dying to go.
TANYA - Thanks for the first-hand information.
JURGEN AKA TARZAN - Sorry, I haven't seen any of these for sale for years. I know that Robert Liu used to offer photocopies of back issues that were out of print. Have you tried him?
RENEE PAGE - Try contacting the Bead Society of Greater Chicago. Go to the home page then People/Bead Societies.
CSTESS - 1. You could advertise them here. 2. You could build your own web site (can you do that with WebTV; I am not sure). Go to the Small Bead-Business section from the Home Page and there is an extensive article about how to make your own web site. br BEEEDZ - I have no idea. I just checked and got a 404 - File Not Found message. Does anyone know?
~ Peace

 


 

Lissa: - 208-48-174-113.nas-2.scf.primenet.com - Friday, November 05, 1999 at 01:32:23 (EST)
Beeedz: Try http://members.home.net/sdsantan/beadfairies.html . The site has changed hands, and locations, but still has the same basic information.

 


 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Friday, November 05, 1999 at 01:19:22 (EST)
Does anyone know what happened to "The Bead Fairies" site? Have been unable to find it for some time. Help!

 


 

Tanya: - a24.pm3-33.theriver.com - Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 22:42:22 (EST)
Helen,
Thanks for your advice but since I am here visiting I don't have a few years to wait for nature to take it's corse. He was 5' long with 14 buttons on his rattle ! Poor guy visited the wrong ranchers home. Thanks though as that would have been a more pleas ant way !

 


 

Tanya: - a24.pm3-33.theriver.com - Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 22:38:37 (EST)
Jurgen,
You don't need a lid on the pot "Tarzan" !!

 


 

cstess@webtv.net: - proxy-358.public.rwc.webtv.net - Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 17:37:43 (EST)
Hello,
I would like to sell my bracelets on the internet.
But I'm not sure how to go about it. I have a great
selection of birthstones mystery beads, and and all the different beads that other people have been selling to the Rich and Famous People in Hollywood.
Could someone help me please.
Thanks
Cstess

 


 

renee page: - pool0270.cvx18-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 15:15:43 (EST)
I would like to contact Linda Leibsker pictured at
http://thebeadsite.com/GUI-BSF2.html
She did The Moral birdhouse. I can contact her by email
or whichever she prefers. Can someone help me reach her?

 


 

juergen busch: - spider-wb043.proxy.aol.com - Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 14:17:32 (EST)
Hunting for issue/s of "THE BEAD JOURNAL" (former ORNAMENT Magazine). Who can help?

 

 


 

juergen busch: - spider-wb043.proxy.aol.com - Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 13:59:10 (EST)
TANYA-Conda:
is the creature still alive? The problem is to get ANNA-Conda into a boiling pot!

...don´t forget the lid!
juergen - the hunter

 


 

Helen: - spider-wj044.proxy.aol.com - Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 13:23:00 (EST)
Tanya:You can also leave the snake outdoors under a screen and let the ants clean it-slow, but they do a great job.

 


 

Tanya: - a7.pm3-32.theriver.com - Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 13:15:49 (EST)
Yes, boiling is the best way to go. First you must skin it though. Where I am from in Az. we call the vertabre "desert doves" as they have a head, wings, and a tail feather look. I am visiting my sister and kept her quite busy yeste rday. We use them for hat bands, ear rings and necklaces.

 


 

beads: - 202.101.155.66 - Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 12:12:41 (EST)
ocean: try to visit our hompage: www.bcity.com/brilliant
 

 


 

beadman@jdallen.cnchost.com: - ts010d31.oak-ca.concentric.net - Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 07:50:37 (EST)
Shawn: In regards to your question of October 24th, Art Seymour has made "Nueva Cadiz"-like beads in the past few years. (He is a very talented drawn-bead-maker, who has mostly specialized in reproducing his own line of chevron (r osetta) beads. He has even made a group of star-Nueva Cadiz beads (blue and white layers, but with starry internal layers)——and he was kind enough to give me a couple, including one cut into a chevron bead. For the most part, his beads would not be conf used with actual early Nueva Cadiz beads, because they are much too large. He had, at that time, only seen the 19th century "late Nueva Cadiz" beads——which are quite a bit larger than the prototypes, and which are not twisted. Other than this, I can't thi nk of anyone nor any industry that has made such beads in recent times.

HEY! I spent Hallowe'en in New Orleans——which is as much BEAD CITY now as it is during Mardi Gras. Anyway, I haven't posted for a while because I've been away a lot. It's nice to be back, and to get caught up. Cheers everyone. Jamey

 


 

Pete: - acc-25.northnet.org - Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 01:54:59 (EST)
TANYA - The Bontoc of Luzon eat the meat before using the bones as a head-dress. Boiling is probably the way to go.
BONNIE - hi.
~ Peace

 


 

Tanya: - 206-25-49-197.ip.theriver.com - Wednesday, November 03, 1999 at 11:56:22 (EST)
Been trying to find somebody that knows the best way to get snake vertabre out of the dead critter. Boil him or let time take it's corse ?

 


 

: - a20.pm3-53.theriver.com - Tuesday, November 02, 1999 at 21:42:04 (EST)
Sorry,there was no joke to laugh at there...a vegatarian "thumper" but, that is okay. Love your site on the old feather beads, I even have a few black ones.

 


 

Pete: - acc-35.northnet.org - Monday, November 01, 1999 at 21:49:24 (EST)
GILLIAN - Only if someone is on. Post something. You'll get an answer.
BONNIE - I don't get the joke either. By "preaching about beads" I meant in the old-fahioned way of "spreading the word," not "preaching at."
~ Peace

 


 

Bonnie: - a27.pm3-28.theriver.com - Monday, November 01, 1999 at 21:14:32 (EST)
To preach about a beautiful thing like beads ? I think you meant to word that differently. Nobody likes to be preached at.It's a bead-iful world, may we share their beauty !!

 


 

Bonnie: - a12.pm3-28.theriver.com - Monday, November 01, 1999 at 19:18:40 (EST)
Pete, not upset, what is the joke ?

 


 

gillian : - 212.2.186.250 - Monday, November 01, 1999 at 17:23:18 (EST)
hi ,i want a chat to sombody

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